Posts by never a jw

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

never a jw

Pale emperor,

Whatever you do, proceed with caution, your ex is not to be trusted. Nothing wrong with her good intentions. It's her ability to remain steadfast and resolute that has me concerned. She has proven before to be unreliable. However, she may sincerely be crying for help, and you are the only one that can offer that. I truly feel sorry for her, she is trapped and lacks the strength and the means to solve her own problems. Play hero if it's in your heart to do so, just proceed very slowly.

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My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

by pale.emperor in

my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

never a jw

From all this, the happiest news is that your daughter's chances to grow up in a healthy environment just got a lot better.

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WTS Rich or Hurting for $$$

by Zeds Dead in

seen a few discussions asking if the wts are hurting for $$ or still sitting on a mountain of gold.. regardless of their child abuse legal fees and ongoing broadcasting for more dough, i believe they have piles and piles of cash.. talked with a diff'd accountant who sat in the accounting dept.

at the conventions for years.. a football stadium (or the like) costs them about $70 - 90,000 to rent for a 3 day dub show.

they take in $400,000 in donations from the r&f.

never a jw

They reached their peak. The may even be at their peak right now. However, from here on is downhill all the way, membership and finances. The only thing to speculate about is how long this is going to last.

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Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

by Paul Mooney in

i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

never a jw

Welcome Paul,

Best experience I have read in a while. The best to you, your family and especially your Dad. Tell your Dad that he has plenty of backbone, the backbone that is needed to sacrifice himself for the sake of others. He loves your family too much to go rogue and independent.

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The facts on crucifixion, stauros, and the "torture stake"

by Leolaia in

finally, i will look at biblical and patristic evidence bearing on the crucifixion of jesus in particular.

we need to examine the earliest known descriptions of the kind of crucifixion adopted by the romans and the specific terms they used to refer to it.

apparently the society believes that crux still meant "stake" in the second century a.d., when tacitus composed his annals.

never a jw

3 years ago

Is the OP the longest post on the forum?

It may be the longest post, but every word is needed and counts to produce a masterpiece of scholarship. It's the antithesis of Watchtower writing

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Finding out that jws are not what they make out to be

by nomorepain13 in

*warning this is long* it all started on the last day of the "remain loyal to jehovah" convention.

a little background story, i've been raised as a jw, been in and out of the religon, never baptised but was made an unbaptized publisher about 3 years ago, always felt out of place in the congregation, blamed myself for this because if i had just went to meetings and did all the right things then i would have friends and not be in the mess that i was.

right after becoming an unbaptized publisher i met my now fiance, end up leaving my mother's house to live with him, elders haven't contacted me about my situation even though i'm sure they know as my step father is an elder...but anyway on the last day of the convention my fiance came with me as i was visiting my mother and had planned to go with her and her husband to the convention.

never a jw

You just reached the point of no return. Be happy! You will still be shocked, angry, disappointed, sad. But things will get better soon after. Welcome to freedom!

Read Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz, a man who was totally the opposite of the leaders of the Watchtower

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Coming to a Kingdom Hall near you

by FatFreek 2005 in

putting it simply, kingdom halls are no longer the property of a local group of the folks that paid for and constructed it.

the lender, the watchtower society, now says that once a mortgage is satisfied, that congregation must then declare a resolution which says it will continue to make payments, usually equal to the amount they were paying on the mortgage.

and they must do so indefinitely.

never a jw

Amen to that!

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I don't think I will be able to escape the JWs ...

by nevaagain in

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i know i will get a lot of backslash on this forum for saying this, but as it looks like, i won't ever be able to escape the jws.

i have been a born in, third generation jw and awoken in one way or another (i joined this forum 15 years ago) for a very long time.

but i have adapted to the jw lifestyle to a point where it does not bother me anymore.

never a jw

You are fine, the "worldly" world is not for everyone. The "worldly" world is a lot more fun, with way more choices, from the worst to the very best. The world offers the opportunity to get much greater sense of accomplishment. You can be selfish and give yourself every material joy available to you without a sense of guilt, or you can do great acts of philanthropy and attain maximum sense of fulfillment without the judgement of fundamentalists who expect only acts of worship to the leaders and mythological figures. The world also offers the opportunity to discover and learn the universe as is, not as we want it to be. Lastly, the spectrum of worldly girls is far larger than in a fundamentalist religion, but not everyone has the skills to get la creme dela creme. If you found your niche and is in your area of comfort, then enjoy it. Life is too short.

One last comment: Given the state of affairs in the Watchtower, I think its "useful" life is not going to be longer than your own. Make some preparations for the imminent days of the Watchtower's decrepitude and obsolescence. Get your zealous girl while they last, and remember you have to be a ministerial servant to be worthy of a JW girl.

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Selloff Hinted At Assembly

by thedepressedsoul in

the last talk at the assembly made an interesting statement, "we can show faith by following direction if we're asked to move to another kingdom hall for better use of dedicated christian funds".

this statement has everyone talking.

i spoke to multiple individuals and they heard the same thing at different assembly's.. i know they have been "evaluating" all kingdom halls the last year or two.

never a jw

If congregations are consolidated, then donations will shrink even more. Now, instead of two small monthly donations to Brooklyn (Warwick), you have one bigger donation that may not add up to the sum of the two smaller donations. People donate less when they know there's plenty of other heads to contribute.

Yet another sign that they are not thinking about long term. The end maybe upon us!

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Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

by nicolaou in

jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

never a jw

Yes, they are christians, but they are JEHOVAHERS in a much bigger way. Most other forms of Christianity are big on Jesus and the Gospels, but care almost nothing about the childless God of the Old Testament, except when there's a prophecy about his future son. Most other Christians care about the God of the New Testament because he is the father of the big hero of Christianity, JESUS CHRIST. It's all in the name CHRISTIANITY.